New AKA 8" Concentric Coil

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  1. SuchMuch

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    Zemleroyk:
    ***qte***
    With new 8" concentric coil and Signum (RT-ST sound mode) I will outperform Deus equipped with 9" with easy :p.
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    Rusya:
    ***qte***
    Is it an old 8" concentric coil AKA stopped producing long time ago?
    That's tricky! Tell me the truth!
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    Zemleroyk:
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    That's not an old AKA concentric coil. The very same housing, but coil design is different. Mass release is planned in Spring 2019.
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    --- Double Post Merged, Jan 18, 2019, Original Post Date: Jan 18, 2019 ---
    Subject coil will be different from classic concentric coil. It will be produced with frequency 14 kHz

    Zemleroyk filmed the video how 8" aka concentric coil passes Nail Board test:


    SuchMuch Remark:
    The coil passed 8 0f 9 directions succesfully. Pls note LT Bound is set to -14, it means there are no tricks with sounding iron signals as non ferrous.

    Pay attention that coil provides right ID for piled coins whatever position they take. DD coil tends to ID some positions of piled coins as iron.
     
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    Sounds very exciting.
     
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    I love concentric coils and its fine pinpoint
     
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    AKA 8" concentric coil and Nail Board test has been added to the first post
     
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    To be honest... every detector will pass that nailboard test when you are using fresh nails :).

    Is this CC coil only for MFD or can you use it on Berkut and Sorex as well?
     
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    Non rusted nails produce signals with strong magnetic parts those turn signals into iron signals. Such strong iron signals easely mask any tiny non ferrous signal.

    You can use it with B-5, S-Pro
     
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    Ah cool :). Well the coil looks nice :).
     
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    The coil looks nice:Lol:
     
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    maybe a 10" will be nice for militaria, 8" is a bit short
     
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    This coil is for trashy sites
     
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    @Rew Ya, whats wrong with that :p? The eyes wants something as well :p
     
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    a coil is a coil
     
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    @Ethane so fits in with English humer:Good:
     
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    Not exactly a common coil ;). With DD coil direction you approach target plays a great role, with concentric coil it completely does not matter the direction you approach targets. And concentric coil provides better separation qualities if compared with DD coil.
     
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    I can see me buying this coil. Need to earn and save some more funds first though.
     
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    Concentric coils are a big plus in iron! Downside is CC coils have a little more struggle with discrimination, but I rather would dig a few nails more than leave the goodies behind ;)
     
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    Subject coil runs 14 kHz. I think, 20 kHz is a way to go for.

    @Zemleroyk is it possible to produce subject concentric coil running 20 kHz?
     
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    Those freq are not for me :Facepalm:
     
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    When is this coil due to be purchased...
     
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    It's still unclear, I guess they will return to subject coil when INK is released